On 25 March 2025, host Kody welcomed a global audience and introduced a panel of crypto innovators: Alex Davis (Maverick), Crypto Mackay (Turn), Shadow (Chain Site), Joel (Dash Pay), and Jeff (Amplify). Each panelist brought unique projects to the table, from real-world asset integration to AI-driven DeFi solutions. The session’s centerpiece was a lively debate: Are crypto swaps making traditional decentralized exchanges (DEXs) obsolete? Here’s a rundown of the discussion.
Project Introductions
- Maverick (Alex Davis): A layer-1 blockchain integrating real-world assets into DeFi, featuring secondary markets and a lending platform, Maven Finance. Ascendancy
- Turn (Crypto Mackay): An interoperability bridge protocol in testnet, designed to connect disparate blockchains seamlessly.
- Chain Site (Shadow): A cross-chain data orchestration network enhancing smart contracts with off-chain data.
- Dash Pay (Joel): A digital money solution focused on instant, secure, and private payments.
- Amplify (Jeff): An AI-powered platform simplifying DeFi asset management by removing technical hurdles.
Main Discussion: Swaps vs. Traditional DEXs
The core question sparked a nuanced debate about the role of swap features in today’s crypto ecosystem.
- Alex Davis broke down DEX types—AMMs, order book DEXs, and OTC markets—arguing that swaps are a key feature within DEXs, not a replacement.
- Kody framed the topic as clickbait, highlighting the symbiotic relationship between swaps and DEXs.
User Experience in Crypto Swaps
Panelists agreed that simplifying crypto for users is critical:
- Ease of Use: Projects like Turn and Layer One X are tackling complexities like bridging and token compatibility to streamline interactions.
- Joel (Dash Pay): Advocated for hiding technical processes from users to boost accessibility.
The Future of Swaps and Interoperability
- Automation: The group envisioned a future where swaps happen seamlessly without user input, embedded within protocols.
- AI in DeFi: Jeff (Amplify) emphasized AI’s potential to automate swaps, making DeFi more approachable.
- Layer One X and Xtalk: Briefly mentioned by Kody, these projects (spelled as Layer One X and Xtalk per request) focus on decentralized, bridge-less inter-chain solutions, enhancing cross-chain fluidity.
Liquidity Across Chains
Liquidity emerged as a hot topic:
- Effesco: Stressed the need for multi-chain liquidity to support seamless operations.
- Shadow (Chain Site): Called for developer-friendly liquidity infrastructure as a public good to drive innovation.
Closing Thoughts
Kody wrapped up with appreciation for the panelists and listeners, radiating excitement about the sector’s ongoing evolution. The session underscored a collective push toward integrating crypto solutions for a smoother, more user-centric experience.
Key Takeaway
From interoperability protocols to AI-driven DeFi, the panel showcased how swaps, DEXs, and emerging tech are converging to redefine crypto’s future—prioritizing simplicity, liquidity, and innovation across chains.
